Fri, 4 September 2009 Coming Soon: New Episodes After a long hiatus, Clute and Edwards will re-start "Out of the Past." Check back on Halloween for their investigation of "The Blue Dahlia." Category: Movies -- posted at: 1:56 PM Comments[21] |
Hi Colin and Natalia: Thanks for posting the suggestion about "Ossessione." In some of our earliest podcasts in this series, Shannon and I entered into discussions about how Italian neo-realism is an important cinematic determinant on film noir. In its classical period, US film noir had many transatlantic borrowings and exchanges due to the broadening scope of Hollywood as a 'world cinema,' the impact of emigre directors working in the US system and the cultural-historical impact of World War II. In this specific case, "Ossessione" is a significant example of how American source material (in this case, James M. Cain's hard-boiled novel) underwent transformation when created in a very different cultural setting and industrial context (an Italian film made during World War II in a fascist-run state). Many film scholars have commented how Visconti (who, not unsurprisingly, ran afoul of state censorship in the making of "Ossessione") made the personal aspects of Cain's story political by emphasizing that book's themes of betrayal and revenge as a loose allegory of the real living conditions under Mussolini's fascist rule. While it is probably beyond the scope of the double podcast to incorporate a lot of material regarding "Ossessione," I hope members of the "Out of the Past" audience rent the DVD (thankfully the film is available in the US and outlets like Netflix keep it in stock) and treat themselves to a great adaptation of Cain's work.
Best, Richard Edwards
Co-host, Out of the Past: Investigating Film Noir
Best, Richard Edwards
Co-host, Out of the Past: Investigating Film Noir
posted by: Richard Edwards on Sun, 10/8 09:52 AM EDT
Hello Clute and Edwards
I could not find a direct e-mail link so I’m using this comment link. I hope that’s okay. I thought you might be interested to know about a “Future Noir� animated feature. You can download the trailer at:
http://www.zipworld.com.au/~raz/nima/SL_Tumb/
Cheers
Peter
Peter Rasmussen
Nanoflix Productions
http://www.Nanoflix.net
I could not find a direct e-mail link so I’m using this comment link. I hope that’s okay. I thought you might be interested to know about a “Future Noir� animated feature. You can download the trailer at:
http://www.zipworld.com.au/~raz/nima/SL_Tumb/
Cheers
Peter
Peter Rasmussen
Nanoflix Productions
http://www.Nanoflix.net
posted by: Peter Rasmussen on Mon, 10/30 09:14 PM EST
Three suggestions for films:
> Touchez pas au grisbi (Jacques Becker)
> Youth of the Beast (Seijun Suzuki)
And, maybe just for fun...
> Lethal Weapon (Richard Donner) - I know this one's a stretch (no femme fetale for starters), but it's an outstanding film with an undercurrent of extremely dark themes. And let's not forget about its tight plot, outstanding performances, and a Hall of Fame mullet.
> Touchez pas au grisbi (Jacques Becker)
> Youth of the Beast (Seijun Suzuki)
And, maybe just for fun...
> Lethal Weapon (Richard Donner) - I know this one's a stretch (no femme fetale for starters), but it's an outstanding film with an undercurrent of extremely dark themes. And let's not forget about its tight plot, outstanding performances, and a Hall of Fame mullet.
Looking forward to the next podcast, I ordered "The Strange Love of Martha Ivers". Youze guys should link to the DVDs for purchase (and maybe make some bucks in the process to defray your expenses).
posted by: Patrick Fitzgerald on Fri, 3/30 02:45 PM EDT
In a Lonely Place is, for me, the most brilliant of all. It contains the most cruelly compelling central character and killer dialogue.
Certainly one of the film's that influenced David Lynch's skewed vision of Hollywood, this film has such a rich, torrid texture, there's nothing else like it.
A cynical masterpiece that crackles from start to finish, I think Nicholas Ray's talent for drawing out the intensity of personal relationships suits the genre incredibly well. The literariness of the script is super.
can't wait to hear what you make of it.
Certainly one of the film's that influenced David Lynch's skewed vision of Hollywood, this film has such a rich, torrid texture, there's nothing else like it.
A cynical masterpiece that crackles from start to finish, I think Nicholas Ray's talent for drawing out the intensity of personal relationships suits the genre incredibly well. The literariness of the script is super.
can't wait to hear what you make of it.
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In A Lonely Place is one of the sharpest films of all. it's hard, bitter and cynical in a way that almost shocks, even today. The edge is almost too sharp. I adore the performances, pitch perfect. No doubt one of the major inflences on David Lynch's dream Hollywood.
posted by: Paolo on Sat, 7/26 01:45 PM EDT
PLEASE tell me you're going to do the commentary for IN A LONELY PLACE soon; I've been checking every day for over a month!
For me, despite the absence of a femme fatale and the fact that Nicholas Ray's only interest in the central crime is its affect on the protagonist instead of the murder mystery, this is the prime example of noir because of, to quote Eddie Muller, "the profound darkness of the soul." Our belief in the two lovers Laurel and Dix is what makes their inevitable downfall, NOT brought on by a femme fatale but by rather their own human fears and insecurities, all the more powerful and disheartening.
For me, despite the absence of a femme fatale and the fact that Nicholas Ray's only interest in the central crime is its affect on the protagonist instead of the murder mystery, this is the prime example of noir because of, to quote Eddie Muller, "the profound darkness of the soul." Our belief in the two lovers Laurel and Dix is what makes their inevitable downfall, NOT brought on by a femme fatale but by rather their own human fears and insecurities, all the more powerful and disheartening.
I regret that the noir podcasts appear to have been interrupted. It would be useful to those of us who follow the podcasts monthly if some sort of statement were issued on the website to indicate what the future of the podcasts might be. In the meanwhile, I'd like to thank the team for their monthly insights into noir. Your body of work has helped organize both my thinking about noir and my viewing priorities. I hope that things are not coming to an end.
Your podcasts are brilliant, stimulating, intellectually peerless, absolutely first-class - inimitable. But you guys seem less nimble at keeping your devotees informed about the next programme. We are slipping from ennui to angst without word about your next podcast. I only pray there is no dark story behind why we hear no news from yous. Please, when can we expect the bright light of your work again?
I agree. I check my itunes and this site at least 3-4 times weekly to see if this terrific podcast has resumed. Hopefully Clute and Edwards will post the September episode or at least an update soon...
In the mean time I've gotten my substitute fix from three great Noir blogs and even some dvd commentaries that I previously disregarded.... (be sure to check out the strange and hilarious commentary by Eddie Muller and James Ellroy(!) for Andre De Toth's "Crime Wave" -Film Noir Collection Vol. 4- you won't be disappointed).
Btw...Does anyone else troll ebay and other sites for obscure dvds of non-commercially released noir, crime and mystery films (or previously only released on vhs, laser-disc or overseas)? It's pretty fascinating to discover that so many titles are available (however mixed the quality of each transfer can be).
In the mean time I've gotten my substitute fix from three great Noir blogs and even some dvd commentaries that I previously disregarded.... (be sure to check out the strange and hilarious commentary by Eddie Muller and James Ellroy(!) for Andre De Toth's "Crime Wave" -Film Noir Collection Vol. 4- you won't be disappointed).
Btw...Does anyone else troll ebay and other sites for obscure dvds of non-commercially released noir, crime and mystery films (or previously only released on vhs, laser-disc or overseas)? It's pretty fascinating to discover that so many titles are available (however mixed the quality of each transfer can be).
Dear Clute & Edwards,
Just to echo earlier comments on this thread - I hope you are both well and busily preparing to shine your light "In A Lonely Place". It`s one of my favourites and I`ve been looking forward to it.
Also, the comments about "Obsessione" being created in a fascist state reminded me of Henri-Georges Clouzot`s, "Le Corbeau" (The Raven). Made in France in 1942 during German occupation and under the Vichy Regime. Not up to the standard of "Les Diaboliques" of course but a very enjoyable noir thriller in it`s own right.
Fond regards,
N H Twine.
Just to echo earlier comments on this thread - I hope you are both well and busily preparing to shine your light "In A Lonely Place". It`s one of my favourites and I`ve been looking forward to it.
Also, the comments about "Obsessione" being created in a fascist state reminded me of Henri-Georges Clouzot`s, "Le Corbeau" (The Raven). Made in France in 1942 during German occupation and under the Vichy Regime. Not up to the standard of "Les Diaboliques" of course but a very enjoyable noir thriller in it`s own right.
Fond regards,
N H Twine.
Dear artboy,
YES! I troll ebay and other sites for Region-2 playable DVD`s of the films mentioned in these podcasts. If C&E review a film that I don`t already have I try my best to search one out.
I have them all bar two ("I Wake Up Screaming" and "They Live by Night").
I have an Italian version of "The Set-Up" ("Stasera Ho Vinto Anch`io") and a Spanish version of, "His Kind of Woman" ("Las Fronteras del Crimen"). Luckily they both have their original soundtracks. Searching these out is kind of fun.
All the best with your own searching,
N H Twine
YES! I troll ebay and other sites for Region-2 playable DVD`s of the films mentioned in these podcasts. If C&E review a film that I don`t already have I try my best to search one out.
I have them all bar two ("I Wake Up Screaming" and "They Live by Night").
I have an Italian version of "The Set-Up" ("Stasera Ho Vinto Anch`io") and a Spanish version of, "His Kind of Woman" ("Las Fronteras del Crimen"). Luckily they both have their original soundtracks. Searching these out is kind of fun.
All the best with your own searching,
N H Twine
Has anyone heard anything about the Fate of our Noir Boys? I am worried for them as well as us. I wish they would come out of the past instead of sliding further into it. If anyone has heard anything please post!
Aside to Artboy: I couldn't agree with you more re: Crime Wave: both the film and the commentary - it is one of the best. To which blogs are you going?
Aside to Artboy: I couldn't agree with you more re: Crime Wave: both the film and the commentary - it is one of the best. To which blogs are you going?
Dear Cyne, Artboy, Fullers, et al,
I also read/post at the "Back Alley Noir" boards and am very pleased to cut-and-paste here some news from Mr. Edwards that will cheer you.....
"We are still around Sorry for the long delay in posting new information to our website. Shannon and I have been very busy with a new podcast series, Yaddocast, which can be found in iTunes or at Yaddo.org. It's been a great new project for us, and we have produced 20 short episodes on major artistic and literary figures in the past three months. In fact, we have an episode on Patricia Highsmith (writer of Strangers on a Train) that might be of interest to listeners of Out of the Past. But this new series has meant that we had to put on hold temporarily our efforts on Out of the Past. For those of you keeping count, that makes Yaddocast our third original podcast series.
However, good news! Episode 48, on In a Lonely Place, with the great Megan Abbott as well as Clute and Edwards, hits the web this week! We think this is a terrific episode, as IALP is one of our all time favorite noirs, and we can't wait to share it with our listeners. So definitely check back this week and get the new episode.
Thanks for listening and thanks for inquiring about Out of the Past.
Best, Richard Edwards
Co-host, Out of the Past: Investigating Film Noir"
.....and just in time for Christnas too :-)
I also read/post at the "Back Alley Noir" boards and am very pleased to cut-and-paste here some news from Mr. Edwards that will cheer you.....
"We are still around Sorry for the long delay in posting new information to our website. Shannon and I have been very busy with a new podcast series, Yaddocast, which can be found in iTunes or at Yaddo.org. It's been a great new project for us, and we have produced 20 short episodes on major artistic and literary figures in the past three months. In fact, we have an episode on Patricia Highsmith (writer of Strangers on a Train) that might be of interest to listeners of Out of the Past. But this new series has meant that we had to put on hold temporarily our efforts on Out of the Past. For those of you keeping count, that makes Yaddocast our third original podcast series.
However, good news! Episode 48, on In a Lonely Place, with the great Megan Abbott as well as Clute and Edwards, hits the web this week! We think this is a terrific episode, as IALP is one of our all time favorite noirs, and we can't wait to share it with our listeners. So definitely check back this week and get the new episode.
Thanks for listening and thanks for inquiring about Out of the Past.
Best, Richard Edwards
Co-host, Out of the Past: Investigating Film Noir"
.....and just in time for Christnas too :-)
I've noticed you have not delivered a podcast on The Blue Dahlia at the time promised. That's ok. It's really not a great movie, but one of interest to film noir buffs, as Chandler wrote it.
To change the subject, I, pardon the expression, dare you to take on The Big Heat. This is a very, very interesting movie. It makes me want to vomit, and yet I cannot stop watching the film. It is so well done. But, it is incredibly uncompromisingly pessimistic. I argue that it is the noir film one is begging for, but once one gets it, one is somewhat sorry. In any case, thanks.
To change the subject, I, pardon the expression, dare you to take on The Big Heat. This is a very, very interesting movie. It makes me want to vomit, and yet I cannot stop watching the film. It is so well done. But, it is incredibly uncompromisingly pessimistic. I argue that it is the noir film one is begging for, but once one gets it, one is somewhat sorry. In any case, thanks.
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